“Boring” “Fraud” And, this one from one of our nfbadboys.com: ha ha they even abuse each other! Bad Boys, whatcha gonna do! Ha ha ha ha ha! Even some fixated mentally fucked stalker can’t let it go that he’s a bad flirt, abuses female sex workers, and is gone from the site! yay!
AWheelerDealer
Phony fucker. This “jock” don’t even know about baseball.
Customer name: Tyeyoudown (member since 2015)
Date: Jan 5, and 6,2023
Details:
Tyeyoudown is an actual flirt, yes a flirt. Not a good one! (not anymore) he hasn’t taken calls since 2023! Yipeee
Report: He called me and started speaking to me about underaged stuff. I INSTANTLY changed up the conversation he was happy with this. I advised we do not talk about underaged and its against the TOS of NF. He said ok. The next day Tyeyoudown called again and was back at the undeage stuff. I said, the call will stop if you continue. I will also block you and report to NF. He unleashed on me calling me a cunt, whore and a fucking faggot. So I hung up, blocked and reported to NF.
The next day there were two reviews left with exceptionally bad comments. I went to NF and they removed 1 of the 2 reviews. On the review that was left they took off the comments but the review will remain in place.
This person is habitual with their 1 star reviews and comments. I am not the only person who has pushed back but now I have a bad review. My way around this was to delete the listing and now its no longer showing. Sadly it was my least expensive listing to be on the home page.
IF HE IS A FLIRT, THIS IS HIS FEEDBACK! LOL
This is his petty little attempts at demeaning women on NiteFlirt he is an abusive troll NiteFlirt hello? Rescind his privileges!
AMister LOL You’d think he’d give up!And, he continues! NiteFlirt, do something!
LOL, ‘not good enough for him?” He is lucky he gets to speak to a female at all, but of course he pays for it and yet no one is “good enough”. This is just his way of getting away with abusive behavior. Hello NF!
This is what he does, he gave her 5 stars then a few days later when she didn’t put up with this INSANE abuse he gave her 1
This flirt had over 100 points but only 5 feedbacks his gave her a four star rating!
Just saw this on the site recently, what is the definition of insanity? Ha ha you’d think he’d stop, but he’s a low life pathetic weak son of a bitch and can’t! I’m sure he was at Jan 6th because he’s just an angry moron.
His idea of a sexual PSO submissive is to take REAL INSULTS and love it! LOL HE’S PATHETIC!
Today, July 31st a brand new flirt was given 1 star by this prickless ass because she wouldn’t give him her home address! Report him to NiteFlirt under policies and abuse if he does that to you!
THE ONLY WAY WE CAN GET HIM BLOCKED ON NITEFLIRT BY THEM IS TO REPORT HIS ABUSIVE BEHAVIOR AND VIOLATIONS OF THEIR POLICIES! REPORT HIM!
Notice the pattern? He called her, gave her 5 star reviews but when she asked him, “please don’t call me again” he gave her 2 star. He’ s so fucking sick!!! Off his meds!
He asked for something inexcusable on 2nd call.Will he ever give up?Let’s castrate this prick!
And, he say’s she’s the one who is dumb? LOLYou’d think he’d just move on..but he’s insane
AMister is a mentally ill, woman hating probably disabled loser fuck who deserves to have his little balls cut off!
If you are new to the phone sex scene and put yourself on the front page of the NITEFLIRT site as a submissive, you are going to get a call from this unstable, hateful, bully and moronic fuck. I suggest anyone who advertises as a submissive on NiteFlirt PRE-BLOCK HIM. How?
Go to your account.
Click on mail.
Click on the last tab, options.
Add AMister to the empty box and hit enter.
This is just the latest of hundreds of 1 star feedbacks! He’s a fucking nut job!!!
What’s the definition of insanity? “Continuing to do the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result” He’s INSANE.
def: the activity or business of promoting and selling products or services, including market research and advertising.
Whether it’s sex work, selling lamps or offering maid services, you have to market your business to potential customers. We in sex work do the same. We offer products in the form of content; our time, (per min rate) mp3’s, mp4’s, and photos. We offer services in the form of phone fantasies, acting roleplays, telling stories, listening to customers, sometimes offering advice and helping them to create a great sex scene.
It starts with you and your perception and what you believe and your self-worth. So, yes-self-worth is associated with the price you charge.
SEX WORK IS WORK, AND IT INVOLVES MARKETING/PRICING
PLACE/PROMOTION
Recently, I read a fully thought out, probably researched and complete and accurately written forum post about pricing as it relates to marketing sex work and ‘self-worth.” The post was ‘general’ using terms such as “we” and “our” and included some very poignant points and references to proper themes of marketing and pricing. In other words, it was a great post!
DOES PRICE REFLECT YOUR OWN SELF-WORTH OR LACK THEREOF?
In a nutshell, yes. She/He may believe this because she/he simply is not delivering anything of value and/or she/he is dealing with “cheap thinking” clients who won’t or can’t pay more. If that’s the case, then you and your clients may be suited for each other.
BEFORE YOU THROW A PRICE UP FOR SEX WORK ASK YOURSELF THESE QUESTIONS:
What message are you sending?
Are you aiming for a quick sale or building a long-term customer relationship?
Are your pricing strategies in sync with your marketing messages?
Does that price reflect the comparable price of others selling the same product?
The price a person commands is going to be in direct proportion to their level of self-confidence, and the level of price they command is going to be a direct reflection of customers they attract. eg: cheap begets cheap.
WHY IS EVERYONE SO READY TO BE OFFENDED?
Hopefully, you read a few of the articles I’ve linked to and have discovered that marketing professionals understand that price reflects self-worth, your own perception of self-worth and the quality you perceive your product is worth. Unfortunately, after the post was read by a few people who seem to have nothing better to do but sit in the NiteFlirt forums, a few comments were, “I am so offended” This is condescending, etc…
I THINK YOU ARE CONFUSING EMOTIONS WITH BUSINESS!
How do you become offended by a business woman offering her own well thought out, well researched and well written opinion on price vs. self-worth and comparable market prices for the same business? Moreover, the discussion was meant, as I read it, to encourage others to see their value. If you downgrade your own service, you make the NiteFlirt platform seem a place for the lowbrow, cheap and desperate.
If you’re offended so easily by business speak, maybe ‘business’ isn’t for you.
It seems that everyone on social media and public forums are there just to be OUTRAGED-OFFENDED-TICKED OFF and incredulous! This exposes your lack of professionalism. It also says something about your ability to navigate daily communication in business.
IF YOU WALKED INTO A CONFERENCE ROOM WHERE PEOPLE WERE DISCUSSING MARKETING PRACTICES, AND YOU STOOD UP AND EXCLAIMED, “I AM SO OFFENDED BY THIS MESSAGE”, I imagine someone in the room would tell you that the women’s emotional support meeting is down the hall, ‘we are discussing business”.
PHONE SEX IS A BUSINESS.
If you are so sensitive that someone else’s opinion /or suggestion on a MARKETING concept sends you into a state of ‘outrage’ or being ‘so offended’ then maybe stay off of social media, stay out of public business forums and consider why you are so easily offended? Are you looking for a place to show unreasonable emotions? Maybe.
PHONE SEX sales and marketing is a business related matter!
*WE ARE IN BUSINESS.
*WE ARE BUSINESS WOMEN.
*WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DISCUSSING BUSINESS CONCEPTS
*WE ARE SUPPOSED TO SHARING INSIGHTS INTO MARKETING
I am always surprised to find out that in 2024 many of you still don’t understand how to use a search engine. Google began in 1995. While many of us still didn’t own home computers in 1995, we have since 2000. The average home now consists of smart phones, tablets and laptop computers and some still sport the old desktop.
While most people can’t read past 250 characters these days as our attention spans are now lower than a gnats, it is important to be able to FIND WHAT YOU’RE LOOKING FOR. I have asked several ladies lately, do you google? Do you know how to search for something specific and do you know what you are looking at when the results come back?
The answer is usually a soft, ‘kinda’. GOOGLE DOES NOT LIKE STOP WORDS.
GOOGLE or Bing or whatever search engine you prefer is your best friend. Use it.
How to search:
Do not use and, but, if, or, nor, in, a, he , she, the, my, your PREPOSISTIONS avoid them!
Use (type the location into the search) specific locations for specific searches.
If someone states in the NiteFlirt forum, (‘report him to the blacklist) and you don’t know the website, you would go to GOOGLE and type in NiteFlirt blacklist. Not “what is the blacklist”? Or, who is the blacklist, but just the site niteflirt and topic blacklist. You would have found my site.
Do not use punctuation in a Google search. No need to add question marks, you are already asking a question.
Lastly, filter your requests to images, videos, (Google now makes youtube videos number 1 results) or you can filter it to books, images, forums and the web.
Google TOOLS: you can toggle tools to narrow down your result by date, exact terms or more.
YOU CAN NOT JUST USE ‘IMAGES’ ON GOOGLE AND USE THEM ON NITEFLIRT.
You must select ‘creative common licenses’ and then make sure you’re not using a copyrighted by photographer or model photo. Go to Google, Images, type in what you’re looking for ‘Lady in high heels” then go to:Tools, usage rights and select aforementioned.
You must be sure to not infringe on someone’s work product.
So, use GOOGLE to your advantage! Looking to learn about fetishes?
Google, search, learn about fetishes. There ya go!
Been a long time since we’ve posted anything, and this site is getting mega hits! 16k+
That means that many phone sex operators are struggling and looking for information.
Whether you are new to phone sex on NiteFlirt or any other platform, you know how hard it is to get going. Building a clientele is rough. Not only is building a clientele hard, keeping them coming back is harder if you’re not charming, professional, and know what you’re doing. The truth is, keeping your return customers is the key to success!
Without repeat customers, you are paying for each new customer who won’t come back!
You shouldn’t have to do that.
You can now use Free Feeds to advertise. You can also view some (not all) good YouTube videos that teach you various ways to avoid paying NF for front page placement.
SITTING ON THE FRONT PAGE OF NITEFLIRT FOR MONTHS AND NOT DOING WELL…
Why would anyone do that? I have watched for seven or eight months now (and you probably have as well) a flirt who for vanity or who suffers from hard-headedness (My mom’s used that term) who sits on that front page day after day with less than 100 points gained. It was/is pure narcissism.
SITTING ON THE FRONT PAGE OF NITEFLIRT IF FOR VERY FEW OF US.
If you pay for front page clicks, and there will be many of them…the point is to make money right?
As mentioned before, yes there are some folks who just like to see themselves on there. LOL
The key for us is, are we making money? For every bid, I get a chat or a call after about 5 clicks. You should too!
If you are paying NF more than you’re making, that is not success.
Changing your thumbnails every day does not help, it hurts. Why? Read here.
PAYING NITEFLIRT FOR CLICKS THAT DON’T CONVERT TO INCOME IS A WASTE.
Yes, we watch what goes on in the business. If you are not, then you’re not doing all you can to make the best of your marketing and money. Plus, every time you sign into NiteFlirt you get sent to the front page whether you like it or not. Ugh…and seeing the same face there day after day is annoying and also very educational. Few make serious money from doing that fo more than a few weeks.
Here’s the thing. The front page is a starting point.
The front page has limits and the customers who come onto the site and click around from the front page are not your best customers. If you aren’t getting REPEAT BUSINESS and keeping those customers and making their calls last more than 30 minutes, you are not going to be successful.
Reasons to put yourself on the front page of NiteFlirt:
You are new and need exposure! Put it up there and after your 3 qualified clicks minimum is met, wait for those or the others that weren’t qualified to convert.
You have a new listing on a mature account.
You have a new listing design and you want to see how it fares against that previous version.
It’s the high season and it’s like catching fish in a barrel.
Or, finally, if you’ve stalled in your current clientele and are looking for new ones.
But, sitting there day after day is a dead-end that will cost you more than you are making.
As stated in our forward, we want this site to be a protective and informative option and a learning place. Yes, some comments and reports will be used a examples of what not to do, and conversely, what TO DO. It is not intended to shame anyone since all posts/reports are anonymous.
Phone Sex is sex work. It’s in the title. That means many things. We talk to hundreds of men on the phone about sexual topics, read emails from customers and get paid to read text messages.
In order to do business, we advertise sexual topics. As you browse the sites some flirts advertise themselves as “whores” cumsluts (whatever that is) and ‘use me’, abuse me and make me yours, treat me like garbage, choke me, call me names and a plethora of other terms and advertisements making them appear to be so into cock and men that they will do ANYTHING for it. If that’s your thing, that’s your business. But don’t be surprised if some random knucklehead sends you a pic of his dick.
REPORT: This site received a report that a customer sent them a dic pic and multiple texts in a row, then wrote bad feedback after discovering he was blocked. I posted the original report because the customer stated clearly, “I was blocked after sending a dick pic”.
On the report response, we (admin) explained that the report was allowed, but contained false or misleading information. The false info was that he only ‘chatted’ and wrote bad feedback. We explained for informative purposes…WEEKS LATER, the same flirt wrote that she was a 15 yr veteran of the business and felt shamed, and hoped that “it never happens to me”? A dick pic? Really? Most of us have received them! I’m not traumatized by them! It’s a penis! We are in sex work!
If she is still fixated and traumatized weeks later, I suggest there is more going on then a dick pic, but as far as being correct about the report and feedback issue:
FEEDBACK: Customers cannot leave feedback for chat nor emails. They must have made a purchase or made a phone call. The flirt must have spoken to this guy prior and he used that call to leave 1 star feedback stating ‘I sent her a dick pic and she blocked me’. Well, he’s stupid for one thing. But, she missed the chance the EDUCATE THIS customer and empower herself._-we are only paid by responding to each text, so no multiples please. Oh, and the best rule of thumb is wait to be asked before sending a photo of your genitals to people on the internet.
Please remit $10 (or your choice amount) to make up for both the pic and the texts. Thank If you consider yourself too much of a ‘lady’ to have received a dick pic, then act like one and demand to treated that way. It doesn’t matter whether you are a FemDom or a submissive, boys will be boys! 9 times of out of 10, you will get an apology and the money or at least an apology. Don’t fixate and cry about it, run your business like a professional. No one expects you to be a doormat! You’re charging them to call/text/email-it’s no secret that you’re a business woman!
Men are sometimes stupid.
They want to show anyone their hard dick! “Look! Look at it, ‘it’s so hard’! Yes, it’s immature and reckless, but so are men. For heterosexual females, how many of you have had a bf put a towel on his hard cock and show it off? Me too! Immature? Yes.
IF YOU WORK ON ADULT SEX SITES, YOU SHOULDN’T BE TRAUMATIZED BY SEEING A DICK
You don’t have to be a Female Dominant to set the rules of your business.
Unwanted Dic Pics.
We have all seen them, we all get them and until NiteFlirt gives us the option of charging to view the photos that come across on chat before we see the photo then we will continue to see dick pics! And, we all get bad feedbacks. Stop reading them! If you’re a highly experienced, ‘long time’ PSO you shouldn’t give a shit about one bad feedback.
As far as I am concerned, feedback that states, ‘she blocked me for sending a dick pic” would inform others not to do that. So, in the end-it’s good feedback. Unfortunately, we can’t stop it.
Until then, you have a few options.
If you are traumatized by dick pics, don’t use the chat system. You will get them. Or, turn it on only for certain customers.
Write your listingsto reflect your sensitivity to such activity and state firmly that you will not tolerate them. (the biggest problem I see with flirt listings, is a lack of understanding basic marketing and effective copywriting to reflect you and your business) and explain to your customers NO MATTER WHAT YOUR CHARACTER’S PERSONA, you have the right to stand up for yourself.
I don’t respond to multiple chats without tributes. You can even tell them IN THE CHAT.
IT’S YOUR BUSINESS. JUST BECAUSE YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF A ‘SUB’ DOESN’T MEAN YOU CANNOT SPEAK UP FOR YOURSELF. If you can’t, or won’t-then your life needs some exploring because you likely get taken advantage of regularly and that makes everything seem worse than it is.
OH fuck! HERE WE GO AGAIN!
THE RAPIST, FELON, LIAR, UNAMERICAN, TRAITOR, VIOLENT, SENILE PANTS SHITTER IS BACK.
111 Republicans who worked with HIM tried to warn America what a DANGEROUS moron he was, and IS and ignorant’s who voted for this monster again, think they knew better?
Get ready.
It’s going to be very very crazy!
PROJECT 2025 is a war against America!
Don’t believe the words of these Generals, National Security Advisors, Attorney, Legislatures, and others?
Read it for yourself! HERE
I won’t go on about what’s facing us, but it won’t be fun. FOR ANYONE!
Keep your Congressman/women aware of your positions. They are our only protectors for the next four years. Unless, fingers crossed, that sick fuck dies before he takes the ‘oath’.
KNOWLEDGE IS POWER=welcome to the NiteFlirt Blacklist
The following post describes many aspects of those callers’ who eventually come around to all of us. Unfortunately, many people (females) are involved with/in abusive relationships. Read on to get some valuable information and how to recognize abuse on and off the phone.
Gaslighting-Someone tries to make you believe something that you KNOW isn’t true.
Raging-An extreme over-reaction to a simple question or boundary, an unnatural response.
Defensive-Refusing to accept criticism or correction without anger or blaming you.
Aggressive-Making demands that go beyond the norm or pushing your obvious boundaries.
Delusional-Believing that something is true even with proof that it isn’t. A fixed belief.
Toxicity-A combination of those above in and out of conversations/relationships.
Over-reactive-Undue emotions to a simple request or suggestion or comment.
HOW TO HANDLE DIFFICULT EMOTIONALLY UNSTABLE CUSTOMERS
The next time you find yourself in a difficult call with someone suffering from mental instability or a personality disorder…recognizing the signs can keep you from being abused or allowing someone with these disorders into your phone sex life or worse, your head.
We are humans and as such we have to deal with other humans. That is not always easy. Learning how to see the signs of a mental disorder (in REAL life or on the phone) is essential to keeping yourself healthy and making good money with good customers/while hanging up and taking the loss from bad ones.
DARVO-This is an acronym for the following signs and actions by someone who is a narcissist or just a gaslighter. You don’t have to be a narcissist to gaslight someone.
DARVO (an acronym for “deny, attack, and reverse victim and offender“) is a reaction that perpetrators of wrongdoing, particularly sexual offenders, may display in response to being held accountable for their behavior. Some researchers indicate that it is a common manipulation strategy of psychological abusers.
Many phone sex operators who have been in the business for a long time have earned an honorary PhD after dealing with so many sick individuals. Most of our callers are fabulous and we love them dearly. Some are just your average guy, and we love them too. But, once in a while you will get a call from the nutty buddies who use phone sex as a substitute or replacement for all of the personal relationships they have ruined.
REFUSING TO BE ABUSED, GASLIT OR SHAMED or HAVING YOUR HEAD FUCKED WITH OR GETTING PULLED INTO A PSYCHO’S WORLD IS ESSENTIAL TO BEING STRONG AND SUCCESSFUL
Too many new phone sex operators think that they have to put up with abusive or difficult callers because they 1. feel since he’s paying he gets to run the call 2. Afraid of bad feedback.
You owe him NOTHING. When a difficult, insecure, immature and sick prick causes you to feel confusion, anger, shame or you simply get that tightness in your chest that’s telling you, ‘something’s wrong here’..hang up. If he leaves you bad feedback it will say more about him than you. His appalling feedback will show who he is, not you.
When you stand up to or put your foot down or set boundaries with someone who is a gaslighter or a gaslighting narcissist you will usually get a strong response.
eg: flirt clicks on one of my buttons, and I follow-up. “Hey, you clicked and then blocked me? What’s up with that, is there something you wanted”?
I always follow-up with leads since I’m selling something. If the response is (which I got) over-reaction, blame, gaslighting (‘she knew I would reach out”) um, yes I’m selling a product, “then blames shames and accused me, of ‘being mad’ which I wasn’t and then victimized me by her pseudo intellectual diatribe, using the word’ ergo…just to show me (as gaslighter’s do) that although she is to blame, she is smarter than me. THAT IS DARVO.
When you light the fire of a someone with personality disorder you will get an UNNATURAL RESPONSE. Generally, they lie. And, they get very angry for nothing.
“My hand must have slipped and I hit a button” I knew you’d do this or get angry so I blocked you” or, the customer says, “It’s your fault I spent this much money and can’t pay by bills, “you told me to call you” when all you did was send out a marketing email, and for no good reason when he does call, he’s angry at hello. This is the sign someone is very ill.
If you get this type of response after setting rules or boundaries to the following:
Insinuates there’s more between you than a pay for play relationship
Gets angry with you when you say you have to go, and blames you for ‘taking his money’
Asks you outright, “do you enjoy talking to me?” and nothing you say will appease him
Or, asks for more than you’re willing to give, and get’s angry with you and shames or blames you then, YOU ARE DEALING WITH A MENTALLY UNSTABLE OR UNHEALTHY PERSON.
HOW CAN YOU HANDLE THESE PEOPLE?
Set the rules. You have standards. You deserve to be respected. Gaslighters and abusers cannot change and you cannot reason with them. They often have issues that are much bigger than it appears during their psychodrama. Nothing you say will make them see themselves.
Gaslighters lie. It’s nothing more. They will lie about the simplest thing and say ‘you did that’ when in fact, they did it. You deserve to know the facts and that facts are real. You know the truth when it’s there and you can own it. You deserve to make a living without being abused by anyone. But, remember, these people are in essence, weak and insecure.
Don’t lose sight of that. Set a boundary and watch the result. If you do and your narcissist or rage-oholic responds with psychodrama, you will know one thing. They will not change and you cannot win. Just walk away, hang up and block them.
While remaining very calm say, we are ending this call now. No matter how he yells, begs, screams, promises ‘not to do it again, or I’ll stop”. Hang up. End it. Over.
If he calls or writes you again after being blocked, and after changing his screen name or opening a new account, remain calm and DO NOT SAY A WORD after you realize it’s him. Simply hang up, block and report. You cannot win with these fixated and profoundly sick men/women. Just ignore.
Feeding someone with these insecurities, fear, and abandonment issues-or giving ANY fuel to their fire excites them! They need your reaction to feed off of. DO NOT RESPOND TO THEM. When they sense they are out of their league intellectually, they will run and block you. I’ve done that and it’s wonderful. But, it still sits on your mind “why did they/she/he come to me? How did I invite them into my business?
You probably showed up and showed yourself to be proud, respectable, intelligent and successful. Narcissists see themselves in you, but the truth is, they aren’t, cannot be and never will be. It’s like narcissist looking into that water at himself he was transfixed with himself but he drowned.
A real psycho addicted narcissistic person can never be you. They want to be, but fail. When they figure that out, they victim blame, try and shame you, put you down, pretend to know you better than you know yourself and when all else fails, get very very angry!
Just hang up.
Report them to the platform you are on for cyber-stalking or harassment.
You can win only by REFUSING TO ENGAGE. These people do not change.
They are fueled by conflict.
Recognizing the patterns of abusive narcissists is key to putting them where they belong.
Ignored. DO NOT FEED THEIR NEED FOR CONFLICT!
The flirt I mentioned above has a politically charged listing just for that reason. She is inviting conflict engagement. Her livelihood and her personality are fueled by psycho drama and it attracts others with the same personality disorder.
Without a false sense of superiority and wallering in delusions of grandeur (thinking that arguing is ‘winning’) and that they/she is smarter than everyone around her, she if left with her quiet mind, which means she is unnoticed and lonely. There is no one to fuel her/their false sense of superiority.
LEAVE THOSE CUSTOMERS TO HER OR OTHER’S LIKE HER and do not respond to them, do not fuel them and know that you will make more money on a decent, kind and imaginative person on the next call.
DO NOT ENGAGE THEM. After all, watch the Capital Riots and the traitor who caused it. THAT IS THE RAGE displayed by an infantile, insecure narcissist. Then he reverses victim/offender and makes himself the victim. We all see it! It’s right there on video.
This is the essential DARVO relationship. He is sick and no one can convince him otherwise.
When a gaslighter is left without fuel, they either rage or blame or shame or resort to violence.
Keep in mind, if you are experiencing any of this type of abuse in real life, get help.
Get out if you can.
Never incite a real sick man into a rage around you, your children or defenseless pets.
Help is available
Speak with someone today
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Hi everyone, are you aware that NF changed its timeline for customers to leave you feedback?
It is now only 7 days. The former policy was 30 days.
Now, if you had a great call and follow-up with your caller to remind him to leave some beautiful feedback and those five stars-he needs to get on it! So, it works for you, but against you if he doesn’t get on it right away.
This new timeline is also beneficial if you had a bad caller. Now, you can just ignore any further contact before blocking the guy and if he keeps his head straight for 7 days, you can avoid that bad feedback.
But you want the good reviews, especially if you’re new to the site. So, always follow-up with him.
It is just a fact that, once a man comes, he usually forgets what or who helped him get there. Sad but true. You have a week to remind him, hopefully without bugging him to do so.
The best option is to remind him before the call ends to ‘leave me some awesome feedback’ or within a few minutes of the call, write or chat to do so, and he’s likely to give you great fresh feedback.
Recently, I was reminded how few women in phone sex understand that phone sex is in fact, a business. And, as such requires business communication, thought, planning and mind-set. I was also reminded that many do not understand even the basics of marketing. Running your online business, whether it’s phone sex or some other business requires more than ‘feelings’. It requires business marketing and strategies.
A question was posed to ‘accomplished’ PSO’s about a strange brand-new campaign/flirt’s ad. We all have characters and play roles, but you still need a believable and desirable listing/advertisement. You want to sell something your customers are seeking.
WHY WOULD A FLIRT LOOK AT OTHER’S PHONE SEX OPERATORS’ LISTINGS?
*As I was about to feature one of my listings and PAY NITEFLIRT for clicks, I looked the category I was seeking to feature and saw who was in the running. There was a brand new flirt in position about 14 on Find Women, and about 5 in Women Home Alone/BEFORE I decide where to feature my listings and how much I am going to pay for it I look at WHO I AM COMPETING WITH! As you should too!
This listing advertised she was going to take her customer’s shopping and buy them clothes or anything they wanted at the mall then buy him food at the food court and smile at him while eats; then at some point they would go to the hotel and ‘do the deed’.
*As you may know a brand-new flirt pays very little to bid for placement.
The next step I take is to listen to outgoing greetings. So, I go through the menu. The last thing I am going to do is compete with someone advertising no limits etc… because I guarantee you, her phone will ring and yours won’t.
Her outgoing greeting said, “I like to cook Thai food and I keep my place clean”. Huh?
Now that I’ve had some time to think about this it’s possible this woman is on the autism spectrum because she saw things completely different than the rest of us. And if that’s the case, I hope she’s gone for good because I can see a customer taking advantage of her. For example: Well, if you’re my Sugar Mama, I want a free call or reduce your rate to .20 per min! It makes sense, he would give her sex after she paid for things, right?
It was really the first time in 15 yrs, I’d seen anyone advertising as a Sugar Mama for the men who call phone sex lines. I had a brain fart and needed to see if my collegues who were ‘accomplished’ could see something I didn’t?
The responses received by these ‘accomplished‘ PSO’s made think, I am dealing with ‘feelings’ here and not business. The question was posed from a marketing perspective not a judgment.
e.g., “Does this make sense to you” or, have you ever heard a woman offering to buy things for men whom you are charging for communication? The responses were rather petty and fraught with ‘feelings’ and judgment, but no one saw it as a business and marketing question.
MARKETING IS THE ESSENCE OF BUSINESS!
STRATEGIC MARKETING
Without a marketing plan that includes strategic marketing techniques, product, price, place and promotion, you aren’t running a business, you’re engaged in a hobby.
Learning the four basic principles of marketing can help elevate your online presence. Ignoring it, and not understand the competition or your audience means you’re missing out on key elements of marketing.
PRODUCT – Character
PRICE – In line with your competition and
service and expertise
PLACE – Where you sit in comparison to your competition
PROMOTION – How you feature, where and what other services you employ
PRODUCT: Are you offering a product that is in demand?
PRICE: Are you competitive and if not does your product offer a higher value?
PLACE: DO YOU PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR PLACEMENT? It is after all, one of the basic and MOST IMPORTANT ASPECTS OF MARKETING. Who are competing with?
PROMOTION: When and where you promote your online business is essential to reaching your audience.
Looking at your competition and understanding them is an ESSENTIAL activity that all businesses use.
WALMART WATCHES TARGET
KROGER WATCHES ALBERTSONS
And airlines all watch each other!
IT IS NOT TROLLING to watch your competition and set yourself and your promotion. place. product and price accordingly.
If a prositute is getting paid, is it OK if she is abused? Is it OK to abuse an animal if you ‘paid for it’?
If you hire an attorney is it OK to abuse him/her? If you are paying a Doctor is it OK to abuse her?
NO!
IT IS NEVER ALRIGHT TO BE ABUSED JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE ADVERTISING/OFFERING A SERVICE AND SOMEONE IS PAYING FOR IT! EVER!
Some people were born doormats. Many women are socialized and conditioned at home to ‘please’.
Fortunately, I was not one of those. I believe we all have FREE WILL and just like the steward on the plane says, “put your mask on first, before you assist others”. If you don’t defend yourself, set boundaries and have a strong sense-of-self and set those rules and have expectations of the way you want to be treated, you are allowing others to take advantage of you.
Men are responsible for over 90% of the violence in the world and as sex workers-we have an authority to stay the violence, the disrespect, the ‘demeaning’ of ourselves and women. We have the power!
Just because you offer a service and some man is paying for it DOES NOT GIVE HIM THE RIGHT TO PUT YOU ON THE DEFENSIVE by blurting out personal questions while ignoring you, ABUSE YOU VERBALLY, DEGRADE YOU, DEMAND INFORMATION ABOUT YOU, ABUSE THE NATURE OF ‘ENTERTAINMENT’ AND PHONE SEX OR CAM WORK or DO ANYTHING ‘just because he paying you”.
That mindset is why so many women stay in abusive relationships and continue to be abused by low lifes who otherwise needed to be put in his place.
It is the women who have self-esteem and pride who are responsible for making men understand that rules of personal space, privacy, and self-worth if not taught at home will be taught by strong women with the self-worth to do so.
EACH AND EVERY SEX WORKER (PHONE SEX OPERATOR) has her/his own set of standards.
Mine are high. Some girls actually advertise “rape me”.
I do not allow any customer to blurt out personal questions at me and demand information not presented in my advertisement. I also do not allow men to ‘top me’ or ignore my requests for basic manners.
I am a FemDom and as such will not participate with such misogyny.
If you do, that’s your call-but WE DO NOT OWE ANYONE WHO DEMANDS PERSONAL INFORMATION ABOUT AGE, LOCATION, MARITAL STATUS, ‘REAL LIFE’ PERSONA V. PHONE SEX PERSONA INFORMATION ‘because he’s paying’. THESE ARE NOT YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES!
With that justification, you perpetuate the abuse women suffer each and every day in real life by these entitled weak men who feel justified to beat and verbally and emotionally abuse women, because he pays the bills.
I have seen many reports on this site and wanted to speak a moment about what abuse is and isn’t. NiteFlirt as with any adult business is filled with jerks, con-artists (yes even women) drug addicts and drunks, the mentally ill, socially inept and socially isolated people. And, that means on both ends of the phone. We certainly have our work cut out for us sometimes…
Reports to NiteFlirt Bad Boys: I honestly cannot report a customer who writes a flirt in an email and says stupid shit. He may have been an asshole when he called but if you aren’t TRAINED IN AND USE WISELY THE NITEFLIRT PLATFORM eg: creating customer lists with notes so that you have journaled your history with each customer when he gets a spam email from you and writes something back abusive, you will have no idea why.
His call or chat may have been a weird interaction that was abusive or a short or you hung up on him or simply put up with the jerk while half listening; but you didn’t block him. When he gets an email from you, he may well remember you and your bad expereince together.
Taking notes on each and every caller is essential in your marketing plan.
Working the NiteFlirt platform is WORK! They don’t make anything easy. ANYTHING.
What makes someone a NITEFLIRT BAD BOY?
As mentioned on the front page, abuse is calling you names, harrassing you via email or chat after blocking him and verbal abuse you didn’t ask for or advertise for. When emailing customer’s you should spend your time wisely. Many customers complain about (and I’ve seen it too) too many low-quality spam emails from flirts.
Sending mass mails to customers:
It literally takes about 5 to 6 clicks just to send a custom email with font color, font face and size. And, forget about doing that over and over again! You will have to redo every single customization you did in one email to all of them!! UGH!
But, be clear 1.what you’re selling 2. How much it is, and 3.What the content contains.
If you spend a good amount of time customizing your emails to customers, you shouldn’t receive abusive emails back. In fact, I’ve recently seen a flirt state in her spam/sale content emails:
NOTE: IF YOU NO LONGER WISH TO RECEIVE EMAILS FROM ME, WRITE BACK WITH NO MORE EMAILS and I’ll remove you from the list.
So, it is NOT ABUSE if you get a personalized email from a customer whom you spammed.
SPAM DEF: irrelevant or inappropriate messages sent on the internet to a large number of recipients.
Also, it’s not abusive nor does it make him a NF Bad Boy since it was kept between the two of you.
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